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by prka126 22/6/2010, 20:52

ape20ff je napisao/la:Zdravo.
I don't know if the title of topic contains a pice of mistake. I know just some words only and o grammar.
I'm here because I followed the link by prka on an other forum. I'm not sure but I think to know already other members of this forum.
Marko Glavasevic in case he is the same person of the shop in Avala, I remember the avatar with the 126 bis with with yugo alloy wheels.
I'm a zastava fan. Fico is fico(cool).I had to have somethingh on fiat 600 but I couldn't find anymore. Probably lost for ever. I'm very sorry.
Pozdrav

ill get you answer soon i must go now

by BISer 22/6/2010, 22:38

ape20ff je napisao/la:Zdravo.
Hvala. Thank you all.
Maybe I was wrong about Glavadevic.
Biser,you're right, I was on club126uk.co.uk
I remember about you because some posts.
Once upon a time I saw a red 126 bis with yugo alu felge in Italy too. What a coincidence! Nowdays innocenti koral are very rare in Italy.
I "bought" a peglica too. There's a problem about paper and car is broken. I paid a lot for that car. What a piece of bad luck! It looked very good but...
I hope to repair to run on the road. Maybe I'll post picture in the future.
It was manufactured in 1984,grey(I don't like the colour too much),wheel13"(I must find 12" if not I have to change the paper).
I don't know if parts are genuine. I can't realize the difference beetween 650 personal 4 and early fsm. It takes pictures and your help.
Somebody knows if front seats from yugo are suitable for 126?
If I can't own a zastava here, I must mount a zastava part at the least.
Pozdrav

Let me try and answer a few questions, first i doubt (although i am not 100% sure) yugo seats fit straight into a 126, although i think that seats from a zastava 750/ fiat 600 go straight in. As for your 126, post a few pictures and ill try to help. There is little difference between early fiat and fsm 126, becouse all the engines were built by fiat and the poles only put the cars together. i think the only difference is in trim levels and the badges, while fiat had only fiat badges, fsm had "Polski Fiat", "FSM", "Licencja Fiat" and so on.
Where in italy are you, i often wisit trieste, but with my VW Polo, my Bis Bambino is long gone Sad

by prka126 4/7/2010, 22:18

yugo seats fit in 126 but you must change seats carriers from yugo onto a 126. carriers fits 100%. difference from early models and others are:

126p 1973 - 1978
engine 594 ccm with 17 KW and 23 HP. engine index is 126 A 000. it has dynamo for power supply, chrome bumpers and ignition coil different, pistons are 73,5 x 70 mm. starter engine was started with cable

126p 650 1978 - 1986
engine 652 ccm with 17,6 KW and 23,6 HP. engine index is 126 A1 000. it also has dynamo, but plastic bumpers was placed instead of chrome. ignition coil is same as 600 model. interior was completely different. pistons 77 x 70 mm. starter engine was started with cable

126p 650E (economic) 1986 - 1994
engine 652 ccm with 17,6 KW and 23,6 HP. engine index is 126 A1 0XX. dynamo was replaced with alternator, ignition coil was different and fuel consumption was lesser ( 7% that's why is called economic ). 126p 600 and 126p 650 compression was 7,5 but on 650E is 8. pistons 77 x 70 mm. starter engine was replaced with one that was able to start with car key

126p 650 LUX. difference from 650E was 5% less fuel consumption, catalyzer, electronic something on carburetor, and i don't remember other thing for now, yes, head thing on seats. engine index 126 A1 XXX.

by Gost 24/7/2010, 14:12

Zdravo. Hvala. I found 126 datasheet,now the link is in the 126 manual topic.
I realized that prka'126s are after 1985. Maybe I found the question I was looking for. I didn't take pictures of my 126 but of course it's a mix of parts.
I don' know about logos and emblems only but you can't answer because in Italy always were ifferent. Mine is of 1984. In brief, it should look like a 126 personal 4 but with the engine from 650E, eletric starter is with cable.
I'll try to describe my car, there is no logo fiat on front, It was crashed and reapaired in a bad way.Probably doors aren't genuine, they used from model after 1985, mirrors are bigger and the plastic parts on sides are like post 1985 ones, there are covers on seats but probably are from 126 bis because head holders,rear lights are from silver-black-red-brown.
What is genuine? Little plastic bumpers,litlle dashboard and the steering.
I hope the engine too, I'll check it. That should be a genuine fsm before 1985:
http://www.centoventisei.it/restauri/stefano.pr/0001.jpg
http://www.centoventisei.it/restauri/stefano.pr/0002.jpg
http://www.centoventisei.it/restauri/stefano.pr/0004.jpg
According me, it's strange that fiat logo is do high like in mk1.
Shall I find a real 1984 126?
Interiors apart seats are the same like mine.
I found another one:
http://www.borzacchielliauto.it/public/01_1145_HPIM6030.JPG
The following 126 is the same colour like mine, I have the same logo on the back. I don't know if it's a real personal 4 or a fsm one:
http://www.centoventisei.it/modelli/secondaserie/targa2.jpg
http://www.centoventisei.it/modelli/secondaserie/paraurti2.jpg
http://www.centoventisei.it/modelli/secondaserie/paracolpi2.jpg
Rear lights are this way:
http://www.centoventisei.it/modelli/secondaserie/fiat126brownfanalino.jpg
I'll still cacth the differences.
Hvala.
Pozdrav

by prka126 24/7/2010, 15:03

I think taht somebody maybe put engine frome 650 e in your because your version should be 650 with dynamo... maybe i didn't have good source of information...

by prka126 24/7/2010, 15:04

my first 126 was with engine 594 cc, but everything else was from 650E

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